hello i did a post 5 days ago regarding a all in one bag mor growing ive misted evedyday 2/3 times a day and given it fae every time also and still no progress or signs of pins any help would be massivly appriciated as running of ideas on what to do
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1 week ago
ive been spraying directly onto the substrate as you said to me to do as was dry
Hey Max, here I meant making one strong misting on the top layer. You don’t need to spray the mycelium directly every day. Just that one time is enough. After that, you can mist the walls of the tub/bag maybe once every 2–3 days if needed (only if the walls of the bag are dry). Although, in your case it's not a big mistake and the mycelium looks much better now.
Anyway, if you still see zero pins by day 15, try one of the options below. All of these methods can help trigger pinning and fruiting:
1) Rehydration + Cold Shock (easiest method):
Soak the mushroom block in cold water with added ice cubes for about 4 hours (you can put the cake in the refrigerator while soaking). Make sure the cake is completely submerged.
2) Rehydrate + Apply Casing Layer on top:
Soak the mushroom cake, then cover the top layer of the block with a casing or pseudo-casing layer. You can find recipes and examples here. Just skip the fork tek (step 1), since you don’t have overlay and go to step 2.
3) Break & Re-case in a Shoebox:
Break up the all-in-one block to create a flat mushroom cake in a plastic container (shoebox). Cover it with a thin layer (~1–1.5 cm or about ½ inch) of casing or pseudo-casing layer.
P.S. Please continue posting updates and asking your questions in this thread. No need to create a new one ;)
thank you really helpful just so i know the mycelium looks okay then??
Tell me, which option are you going to use? :)
Your mushroom block isn’t perfect, but overall it’s fine 👌
Don’t worry though, it’s pretty common. Pre-made all-in-one bags or growkits are never ideal. They’re always a bit of a pain in the ass! Why? Because, it’s almost guaranteed (99% of the time) that you’ll face some issues, like off field capacity (substrates' moisture balance), uneven mycelium colonization, stalled growth, or problems with pinning.
On top of that, newbies who use such products often don’t know how to manage all these, which makes it a double challenge...
hi thanka for the advice im going to try the shock method on day 15 do i put the mycelium block back into the all in one grow bag or another type of tub and carry on misting/fae or will doing that have given it enough moisture that it isnt needed
also there seems to be a lot of water pooling at the bottom of the all in onebag is this okay or should i have tipped it out?
sorry for all the questions im a newby lol this is really helping so does go a long way thanks
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Ok, got you! Regarding your questions:
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You can soak the cake right in the bag ;)
Pour cold water (use clean unchlorinated tap water or drinking water) and add some ice cubes directly into the bag. Leave the cake to soak. Then remove the water and keep the cake in the same bag for further fruiting.
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Water pooling at the bottom is NOT okay since it carries a high risk of contamination (bacterial). Pour the water out, and only mist the bag if the walls look dry!
thank you i will leave it until saturday and only mist if the walls are dry ive emptied the water pooling at the bottom if no pins by saturday will try the shock method i will keep you updated if your intrested
again many thanks
Sure! Waiting for updates. Best of luck 🤞
ive done the rehydraye shock last night so just a waiting game now i have tied the bag back up and there is a slit to allow fae any tips for how i should be storing it plus do i need to open the bag up daily now ive done this shock or just simply leave it alone
cheers
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Hope you used freezing cold water for rehydration (or added ice cubes and/or put the cake in refrigerator while soaking).
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The bag shouldn't be folded. Increase the empty part of bag to make it triple height as cake's height, so the mycelium can "breath".
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The bag shouldn't be completely sealed for fruiting period! If there is no air filter (or it's wet), open the bag twice a day for a few minutes. For some natural air/gas exchange you can also make a 1-inch cut in the bag, or leave a tiny gap in the zip area, and cover it with micropore tape or another breathable tape.
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After rehydration you don't need any misting, so skip it at this point.
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At last, don't keep the bag on the floor. That's the dirtiest place in the room, with the highest contaminant concentration and drafts. Put it on the table or anywhere above.
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Patience!
Hope to see your first pins within the next 10-15 days 🤞
yes used ice cubes and cold tap water eveything you mentioned on how to do it i did
my only issue is that i did the hoodie tek really low down so when i lift the bag up there is a large cut in the bag i will put some micropore tape over the join on the bag then just leave it be it isnt normally on the floor it was just to show the picture
i will leave alone now for 10/15 days and see how i get on once again i appricate the help a bunch cheers
Well done 👍 Alright, got you!
Now let’s just wait and see ;) Post an update on day 7, okay?
19 hours ago
its not letting me post a pic for some reason can i send it to you on redditt?
19 hours ago
just posted on the reddit page
thanks in advance
Your cake looks pretty good 👍 It just needs more time! Natural day light (but NOT a direct sun light) is enough. Additional light is optional.
19 hours ago
will a soft lamp above the growbag be okay for light or is this not okay
also so the mycelium is lookinh okay i was worteid about contam but it is all white no green ect
I've added your photo from reddit post
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18 hours ago
No worries, mycelium is healthy. Nothing green or gray, or looking strange.
You don't need full spectrum light like for plants. And don't use lamps that produce heat.
Light should be white-blue spectrum (~435-480 nm) or use fluorescent light 6500k lux power or just white-blue LED lamp.
cool cheers ill give it another week and update you many thanks
3 hours ago
hi sorry another question just out of curisity if the mycelium doesnt get the correct lighting will it not pin?