@GeorgeS. yes, it's possible to save it and make it fruit. Have you checked this write up? https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/Natalensis_grow_bag_fruiting_and_overlay_problems
LED light is fine, but UV light (and direct sunlight) is not good. More about light for mushrooms I explained here: https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/29/all-in-one-bag-issues#post_148
Superb resource and a gift of your time and expertise to all. I htrust all the good karma you have earned is nourishing your soul and your day. Thank you kindly
That's what I have. Im new to this mushroom growing stuff. So is there any hope for this batch.. also i heard somewhere that led lightning and mycilium don't like each other. Is this astatement true ?
@Marcel, I've edited that 'last comment' to make it clear.
For fruiting (after soaking) you need kind of a fruiting chamber anyway. This could be the initial bag. Or you can use plastic growbox/monotub, where you can put the cake after soaking and provide fruiting conditions. You can't just remove the cake from the bag and leave it at room conditions.
This bag/growbox/monotub with the cake you can place on the table or shelf (don't keep it on the floor!).
BTW, here is a full story by @Max on the forum here: https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/29/all-in-one-bag-issues
Tell me pls, have you already harvested mushrooms from the current all-in-one block with APE or TW? Or are you trying to trigger fruiting right now?
What does TWA means? Tidal Wave?
Is it your first growing experience?
"What to do for the best result for such cakes"– depends on your current knowledge and experience :-)
You can create a thread on forum, describe timing and details on your bag, describe your expectations and attach photos of your bag, so I can check it and we'll decide what to do next
Well, just want to make it clear about last coment.Also have a All in one bag and wonder if I should leave the cake on the wire rack or plate in the room on the table or where to put it...thanks
@Mountainous, if mold noticed on the mushroom fruit bodies — never eat moldy shrooms, just as you wouldn't eat moldy bread, fruits, or veggies! If you found a small sample of mold on the mycelium, then seal this area with salt or H2O2 application (as I described in the guide) in order to prevent mold from spreading during harvesting and then pick your good-looking mushrooms.
However, if everything green on the cake I wouldn't recommend to take such mushrooms, especially if you're not 100% sure what type of green mold on the cake – Trichoderma, Penicillium, Aspergillus etc.
No need to burn your clothes, just wash it or wear smth like medical gown or PE raincoat. Btw, sealing the moldy area also protect your clothes.
Clean the tub and tools with bleach.
You can create a forum thread with photos attached (Click "Get help for free" yellow button in the header), and I'll take a look.
Very often growers confuse mold with bruises. Or, conversely, a “small area” from grower's optimistic perspective may be not small at all :-)
If small amount of trichoderma is found on a cake during fruiting phase, is it safe to consume the mushrooms? Obviously I would harvest outside, burn clothes, sterilize tools and tub but prefer not to lose the harvest.
This experiment was shared by member of Shroomok Discord community:
- What's your airation parameters? Aka gas
- Grower: Sterile air to begin with. Built a box with HEPA filter and UVC bulb in it and put aquarium pump in there.
All will be inoculated from the same plate. 3 will be airated. 1-24/7, 1 - 2/7 and 1 - 3/7
- So what's your negative control?
- Grower: 2 will be control one of which has stir bar. And one will be untouched. I had a 6th but lost him in the PC.
- You should do one O2 airated one airated, one Co2 airated and one untouched. I would tell you airation prob won't help but that's not the spirit of science.
- Grower: O2 setup is still coming. Need to find 02 tank. I have cO2 but no O2 atm. Need to also build Seperate boxes for that... Initial experiment was done on a budget.
- Fair enough!
- Grower: Also thinking about it I don't really want to know if O2 works... Because if it does it will be expensive. Unless I make a little eltro O2/hydrogen generator 🤣
- I mean if it works it's cool and good to know but not like a dealbreaker. I.e if it works, good to know. But like also you could just wait a little and you'll get the same result ya know.
- Grower: The impatient gremlin in my head would always know. Now I wait. First thing to notice is bubbles are an awesome agitator. See next photo here
~ 1 day later~
Grower: Woke up to my first failure this morning with the airated LC experiment 😞 turns out the humidity here and the air pump = lots of moisture in the lines which is saturating and blocking the syringe filters In the top of the jars.
I'll need to make a moisture trap inline
@RoccoDiGuiseppe сongratulations on your first successful grow!
Don't hesitate to share your results and post some photos on forum;) https://shroomok.com/forum
Just harvesting Jack Frost for the first time ever. I didn't get a lot, yet. Im expecting to get some real pulls. I really wanted to learn more about these And look up about it's strength too.
@GeorgeS. yes, it's possible to save it and make it fruit. Have you checked this write up? https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/Natalensis_grow_bag_fruiting_and_overlay_problems
LED light is fine, but UV light (and direct sunlight) is not good. More about light for mushrooms I explained here: https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/29/all-in-one-bag-issues#post_148
Natalensis growing troubleshooting
@JimmyJ, what a kind comment... it definitely nourished my soul today.
Thank you very much! Wish you all the best 🙏
Disposing of magic mushrooms cakes
Superb resource and a gift of your time and expertise to all. I htrust all the good karma you have earned is nourishing your soul and your day. Thank you kindly
Disposing of magic mushrooms cakes
That's what I have. Im new to this mushroom growing stuff. So is there any hope for this batch.. also i heard somewhere that led lightning and mycilium don't like each other. Is this astatement true ?
Natalensis growing troubleshooting
@Isha, ¡De nada! Me alegra ayudar
Tripping: safety guide
Muy útil! Muchas gracias!
Tripping: safety guide
@GaryNelson if it works, why not! But what's even more tricky and of a question is how do you grow mushrooms?! Or do you pick wild?
How to dry and store psilocybe mushrooms
I dry on red brick in a pot at low temps on a camp stove bc I'm a homeless bum. Tricky.
How to dry and store psilocybe mushrooms
good, very helpfull
Still Air Box for Mycology
@Marcel, I've edited that 'last comment' to make it clear.
For fruiting (after soaking) you need kind of a fruiting chamber anyway. This could be the initial bag. Or you can use plastic growbox/monotub, where you can put the cake after soaking and provide fruiting conditions. You can't just remove the cake from the bag and leave it at room conditions.
This bag/growbox/monotub with the cake you can place on the table or shelf (don't keep it on the floor!).
BTW, here is a full story by @Max on the forum here: https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/29/all-in-one-bag-issues
Tell me pls, have you already harvested mushrooms from the current all-in-one block with APE or TW? Or are you trying to trigger fruiting right now?
What does TWA means? Tidal Wave?
Is it your first growing experience?
"What to do for the best result for such cakes"– depends on your current knowledge and experience :-)
You can create a thread on forum, describe timing and details on your bag, describe your expectations and attach photos of your bag, so I can check it and we'll decide what to do next
Rehydration of mushroom cakes
I have TWA or APE all in one bag. (comercial bag) what to do for best result for such cakes.
thanks Shroomok for advice
Rehydration of mushroom cakes
Well, just want to make it clear about last coment.Also have a All in one bag and wonder if I should leave the cake on the wire rack or plate in the room on the table or where to put it...thanks
Rehydration of mushroom cakes
@Mountainous, if mold noticed on the mushroom fruit bodies — never eat moldy shrooms, just as you wouldn't eat moldy bread, fruits, or veggies! If you found a small sample of mold on the mycelium, then seal this area with salt or H2O2 application (as I described in the guide) in order to prevent mold from spreading during harvesting and then pick your good-looking mushrooms.
However, if everything green on the cake I wouldn't recommend to take such mushrooms, especially if you're not 100% sure what type of green mold on the cake – Trichoderma, Penicillium, Aspergillus etc.
No need to burn your clothes, just wash it or wear smth like medical gown or PE raincoat. Btw, sealing the moldy area also protect your clothes.
Clean the tub and tools with bleach.
You can create a forum thread with photos attached (Click "Get help for free" yellow button in the header), and I'll take a look.
Very often growers confuse mold with bruises. Or, conversely, a “small area” from grower's optimistic perspective may be not small at all :-)
Green mold contamination aka Trichoderma
If small amount of trichoderma is found on a cake during fruiting phase, is it safe to consume the mushrooms? Obviously I would harvest outside, burn clothes, sterilize tools and tub but prefer not to lose the harvest.
Green mold contamination aka Trichoderma
This experiment was shared by member of Shroomok Discord community:
- What's your airation parameters? Aka gas
- Grower: Sterile air to begin with. Built a box with HEPA filter and UVC bulb in it and put aquarium pump in there.
All will be inoculated from the same plate. 3 will be airated. 1-24/7, 1 - 2/7 and 1 - 3/7
- So what's your negative control?
- Grower: 2 will be control one of which has stir bar. And one will be untouched. I had a 6th but lost him in the PC.
- You should do one O2 airated one airated, one Co2 airated and one untouched. I would tell you airation prob won't help but that's not the spirit of science.
- Grower: O2 setup is still coming. Need to find 02 tank. I have cO2 but no O2 atm. Need to also build Seperate boxes for that... Initial experiment was done on a budget.
- Fair enough!
- Grower: Also thinking about it I don't really want to know if O2 works... Because if it does it will be expensive. Unless I make a little eltro O2/hydrogen generator 🤣
- I mean if it works it's cool and good to know but not like a dealbreaker. I.e if it works, good to know. But like also you could just wait a little and you'll get the same result ya know.
- Grower: The impatient gremlin in my head would always know. Now I wait. First thing to notice is bubbles are an awesome agitator. See next photo here
~ 1 day later~
Grower: Woke up to my first failure this morning with the airated LC experiment 😞 turns out the humidity here and the air pump = lots of moisture in the lines which is saturating and blocking the syringe filters In the top of the jars.
I'll need to make a moisture trap inline
Airated LC experiment. Liquid Culture aeration tek
@Sara these mushrooms are actually ready for harvesting — when the caps are slightly coming away from the stem.
Avalanche mushroom fruiting
Hey there
Just checking in on your experience with LC under aeration.
Airated LC experiment. Liquid Culture aeration tek
How big are these supposed to get?
Avalanche mushroom fruiting
@RoccoDiGuiseppe сongratulations on your first successful grow!
Don't hesitate to share your results and post some photos on forum;) https://shroomok.com/forum
Rich harvest Cubensis Jack Frost magic mushrooms #5
Just harvesting Jack Frost for the first time ever. I didn't get a lot, yet. Im expecting to get some real pulls. I really wanted to learn more about these And look up about it's strength too.
Rich harvest Cubensis Jack Frost magic mushrooms #5