8 hours of rehydration in the fridge @5°C of a "Zamn. Classic Kit" after 1st flush, gave a yellowish water in the box. Looks like pee. I guess these are metabolism waste products similar to be seen on some overlay/stroma mycelium as the "honey drops"? So I assume it is a good sign, as the mycelium "can go to the toilet" which would be done in nature by the surrounding dirt. I changed the water and let it soak/clean for another 8h. Zamn. instruction says 9-12 hours, while time and methology varies as to be seen in this article. Will soak/change water until the residue water doesn´t show yellow anymore but a max. of 24 h. To be clear, I didn´t soak with a sugar/honey water as described here, just plain tap water (very hard water), which is good because of the carbonates to counteract the acidity?
The cake shrunk about 1cm to the container sides, but after the 8 hours didn´t expand to the "original" size. I guess the original size won´t be achieved by 1st and subsequent rehydration.
Thanks for the gret Info! Especially the Quiz part is fun to do and learn.
@Darwin, you can try to proceed without additional equipment at all. Just make air holes like in monotub and flip the lid upside down to create a gap between the box and the lid for additional air flow (remember to cover all the holes and the gap with filters and/or micropore tape).
But yeah, bigger volume tubs are tend to accumulate more staled air and create "dead zones" without air flow at all. It depends many factors, including your room environment.
Only if it's not enough FAE you can use an air pump (like in growbox guide) or small fan. But the fan should work in a proper direction. I mean it should work as an exhaust fan, removing stale air from the tub rather than blowing in unfiltered dirty air.
As an example, here you can find some calculations, but for US units. Actually it's 0.63m3 grow tent, in your case 100L tub is 0.1m3 and all the calculations are just 1/6, meaning if you use 4" (10 cm) inline duct fan 130 CFM you need to run it for your tub volume for 1-1.5 mins - https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/33/first-time-growing-cvg-natalensis#post_180
ok but if i want to put in a big(more than 100l) mushroom chamber more smaller boxes with mushroom cake do i have to take extra measurements for air flow etc?
I think you forgot to wrap aluminium foil on the outside😁. Light sends a fruiting signal to mycelium and it may start pinning from sides if there is too much light without aluminium foil wrapped around it.
Yes, its contaminated. You can smell it to make sure. My suggestion is to discard it quickly and if you wanted to smell it just do it outside your growing room to prevent it from spreading.
@Darwin if you have huge 120-140l box, of course you can use it, no problem. But it's more practically effective to use a few smaller boxes or even plastic shoeboxes instead of one big box.
You can also use big plastic water bins (5-7L). It's easy, cheap and you don't need any equipment ;-)
Here is the guide: https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/Bottle-tek_or_how_to_grow_mushrooms_in_plastic_bottles
oh WOW! this is what ive been thinking about trying!
Ive got some of these, im also thinking of the bins that protein and mass gainer supplements are packaged in.
Any trouble with these?
Best way for cutting the holes in the boxes is to take an empty metal can for food, then heat it with a gaz burner or whatever (hold it wirh a plier), and apply it where you want the holes to be. Smooth and easy cut without risk of breaking the boxes
Did the peroxide treatment affect the mushrooms at all? I had fungus gnats get into a cake so I sprayed a diluted solution of H2O2 on the cake several times. Made the second flush caps appear darker. I haven't tried them yet but was curious if the mushrooms absorb any of the H2O2 and make them toxic.
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That's awesome 🙏🙏🙏
Art on caps by Golden Teacher mushrooms
8 hours of rehydration in the fridge @5°C of a "Zamn. Classic Kit" after 1st flush, gave a yellowish water in the box. Looks like pee. I guess these are metabolism waste products similar to be seen on some overlay/stroma mycelium as the "honey drops"? So I assume it is a good sign, as the mycelium "can go to the toilet" which would be done in nature by the surrounding dirt. I changed the water and let it soak/clean for another 8h. Zamn. instruction says 9-12 hours, while time and methology varies as to be seen in this article. Will soak/change water until the residue water doesn´t show yellow anymore but a max. of 24 h. To be clear, I didn´t soak with a sugar/honey water as described here, just plain tap water (very hard water), which is good because of the carbonates to counteract the acidity?
The cake shrunk about 1cm to the container sides, but after the 8 hours didn´t expand to the "original" size. I guess the original size won´t be achieved by 1st and subsequent rehydration.
Thanks for the gret Info! Especially the Quiz part is fun to do and learn.
Rehydration of mushroom cakes
@Darwin, you can try to proceed without additional equipment at all. Just make air holes like in monotub and flip the lid upside down to create a gap between the box and the lid for additional air flow (remember to cover all the holes and the gap with filters and/or micropore tape).
But yeah, bigger volume tubs are tend to accumulate more staled air and create "dead zones" without air flow at all. It depends many factors, including your room environment.
Only if it's not enough FAE you can use an air pump (like in growbox guide) or small fan. But the fan should work in a proper direction. I mean it should work as an exhaust fan, removing stale air from the tub rather than blowing in unfiltered dirty air.
As an example, here you can find some calculations, but for US units. Actually it's 0.63m3 grow tent, in your case 100L tub is 0.1m3 and all the calculations are just 1/6, meaning if you use 4" (10 cm) inline duct fan 130 CFM you need to run it for your tub volume for 1-1.5 mins - https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/33/first-time-growing-cvg-natalensis#post_180
Items you need to buy for growing mushrooms at home
ok but if i want to put in a big(more than 100l) mushroom chamber more smaller boxes with mushroom cake do i have to take extra measurements for air flow etc?
Items you need to buy for growing mushrooms at home
Side pinning is not a problem at all ;-)
More about Side and bottom pins here: https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/Mushrooms-side-and-bottom-pinning
Uncolonised chunk, no pins. 6a3edbe2da4a9
It looks like healthy mycelium growing on top. This is pretty common if haven't shaken the LC for a few days or weeks.
If you have any concerns, you can always test it on agar
Is this contamination? 6a3b8f8994250
I think you forgot to wrap aluminium foil on the outside😁. Light sends a fruiting signal to mycelium and it may start pinning from sides if there is too much light without aluminium foil wrapped around it.
Uncolonised chunk, no pins. 6a3edbe2da4a9
Yes, its contaminated. You can smell it to make sure. My suggestion is to discard it quickly and if you wanted to smell it just do it outside your growing room to prevent it from spreading.
Is this contamination? 6a3b8f8994250
@Darwin if you have huge 120-140l box, of course you can use it, no problem. But it's more practically effective to use a few smaller boxes or even plastic shoeboxes instead of one big box.
Growbox guide: https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/DIY_Grow_Box_for_Magic_mushrooms._Fruiting_conditions
Monotub guide: https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/Forget_Monotub_Kit._DIY._How_to_make_Monotub_for_Mushrooms_by_your_own
You can also use big plastic water bins (5-7L). It's easy, cheap and you don't need any equipment ;-)
Here is the guide: https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/Bottle-tek_or_how_to_grow_mushrooms_in_plastic_bottles
Items you need to buy for growing mushrooms at home
You recommended up to 80l plastic boxes but what about 120-140l? is it too big?
Items you need to buy for growing mushrooms at home
@Kelli sure, protein & mass gainer bins are great to use for making mushroom fruiting blocks. Big water bins as well. Go ahead!
Would be great if you share your experience on forum https://shroomok.com/forum and ofc, feel free to ask any questions ;-)
Coffee can tek for growing pink oysters
oh WOW! this is what ive been thinking about trying!
Ive got some of these, im also thinking of the bins that protein and mass gainer supplements are packaged in.
Any trouble with these?
Coffee can tek for growing pink oysters
@Jefe, you're very welcome!
Thank you for comment :-)
How to recognize whether mushrooms contaminated or not
excellent information - thanks!
How to recognize whether mushrooms contaminated or not
@yourname, yes, it's a good tip, thanks👍
This is how we make holes for a SAB (still air box). But for a monotub, we need much smaller holes, so we need a small can.
Also, do it outdoors and wear a face mask, because melting plastic and its fumes are not good to breathe in
DIY Monotub for Mushroom growing
Best way for cutting the holes in the boxes is to take an empty metal can for food, then heat it with a gaz burner or whatever (hold it wirh a plier), and apply it where you want the holes to be. Smooth and easy cut without risk of breaking the boxes
DIY Monotub for Mushroom growing
@NewGuy, I'm so happy you found this guide useful and took the time to write a comment. You've made my day. Thank you very much!
Mushrooms side and bottom pinning
Awesome Info that answered just about every question I had with very helpful explanations and corrective information! Absolutely awesome! THANK YOU!!
Mushrooms side and bottom pinning
@CMD you can find a detailed reply on the forum here https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/99/h2o2-spray-solution
Cubensis Golden Teacher mushrooms fruiting after cobweb mold treatment with hydrogen peroxide
Did the peroxide treatment affect the mushrooms at all? I had fungus gnats get into a cake so I sprayed a diluted solution of H2O2 on the cake several times. Made the second flush caps appear darker. I haven't tried them yet but was curious if the mushrooms absorb any of the H2O2 and make them toxic.
Cubensis Golden Teacher mushrooms fruiting after cobweb mold treatment with hydrogen peroxide