Did the peroxide treatment affect the mushrooms at all? I had fungus gnats get into a cake so I sprayed a diluted solution of H2O2 on the cake several times. Made the second flush caps appear darker. I haven't tried them yet but was curious if the mushrooms absorb any of the H2O2 and make them toxic.
Thank you! I'm using this and multiple other resources as a first time grower, trying Golden Teacher with a Growkit that I am able to get online in my country. I've reached and initiated the fruiting process today and will carefully give it all that it needs over these couple weeks.
Being able to learn from experiences you've shared to avoid mistakes might actually get me through this! :)
@Jimbob, proper drying and storage in a vacuum sealed jar with desiccant in a dark place at room temps or lower will save your shrooms (and their potency) for several years. In my experience for 2-3 years for sure. Possibly longer, but I’ve never kept them longer than that.
If you use an AIRTIGHT jar (rather than a VACUUM sealed one) you can also add a pack of oxygen absorber.
Dehydrating + vacuum jar + desiccant + AND freezing (actually storage of dehydrated mushrooms in a freezer) can slow down the chemical kinetics of reaction. Thus, theoretically yes, this may slightly slow down the breakdown of alkaloids
@Neon, yes freeze drying or lyophilization is the best method for shrooms if done properly, while regular freezing absolutely not (see here https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/How_to_freeze_fresh_magic_mushrooms)
The freeze drying method doesn't damage the tissue, which means that the tryptamines oxidize less.
If you already have a freeze dryer (or maybe want a DIY one), go ahead and use it for sure! 👍
You can make a DIY setup without liquid nitrogen. You'll need dry ice and a vacuum pump.
But IMHO it’s not worth buying an expensive machine (~$3,000) for only a few kilos/pounds of shrooms. Why? Any potency loss from air drying, fan drying, or in a dehydrator can easily be compensated for by adding an extra ~10-20% to the dose, which is less than 1g (or about 10-100mg for microdosing). Anyway, you will calibrate your dose based on already dried shrooms with some potency loss after their drying
@GaryNelson it would be great if you could start a thread on forum https://shroomok.com/forum and share your amazing experience of naturalistic Cyanescens growing.
Of course, I don't mean anything confidential (for ex. your location). Just what works best for you and what doesn’t, dos and don’ts, substrate recipes, how to follow the natural rhythm of the seasons, your tips&tricks, as well as mistakes and what you’d change, maybe nice set of photos.
This would be valuable material for future growers ;-)
Keep going, keep growing!
Wish you all the best!
I have a dehydrator and usually dry the mushrooms and store them in the pantry in a vacuum sealed jar w/ desiccant. However I’ve read the trippy compounds will still degrade over time. Will dehydrating, vacuum jar + desiccant, AND freezing protect the psychoactive compounds?
If oxidation (duration of exposure to oxygen) and heat degradation are the main source of losses for potency, I think we should try freeze drying. Let me know if anyone has tried that, and results.
I do both. I live off grid in the PNW next to a stream with prevalent alder. I had to pull shrubbery and add wood to the slopes to facilitate drainage since cyanescens doesn't like it too wet. I'm bringing in ovoids for seasonally fresh variety. The real difficulty has been to create a naturalistic grow spot that will hopefully replenish itself when I'm gone for the lucky finder. Im 76.
@Hannah, yes fork-tek and adding thin casing or pseudo casing layer works wonders. You can find details and example here: https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/Psilocybe_growing_problems_-_overlay,_abortions,_etc#2._Fork_tek_and_Casing
I saw you've posted some photos on forum here https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/68/slow-growing#post_517 and created a separate thread here https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/72/hellllllpppppppppppp#post_522. There you can find my replies and let's continue our chat in your thread!
You provided fruiting conditions about 2-3 weeks ago, right? Sometimes APEs just need more time and more patience... Long stems without normal caps may be due to genetics itself, kind of mutation or due to mild bacterial contamination. Don't toss the cake! Let's wait another week or two, and then we'll see ;-)
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My fruiting has stalled after 4-5 months, and it smells earthy. I'm seeing strange, long pins without tips. I'm not sure what's going on and am feeling frustrated. Should I keep waiting, try something different, or give up on this batch? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! I tried to add photo but cannot on this comment.
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@CMD you can find a detailed reply on the forum here https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/99/h2o2-spray-solution
Cubensis Golden Teacher mushrooms fruiting after cobweb mold treatment with hydrogen peroxide
Did the peroxide treatment affect the mushrooms at all? I had fungus gnats get into a cake so I sprayed a diluted solution of H2O2 on the cake several times. Made the second flush caps appear darker. I haven't tried them yet but was curious if the mushrooms absorb any of the H2O2 and make them toxic.
Cubensis Golden Teacher mushrooms fruiting after cobweb mold treatment with hydrogen peroxide
@RY, I'm glad you found my guides useful for you very first grow!
If you have any questions or want to share a photo of your cake, feel free to visit the forum https://shroomok.com/forum
Wishing you rich pinning! Good luck 🤞
Fruiting period. Pinhead initiation, mushroom pinning and mushrooms growth parameters
Thank you! I'm using this and multiple other resources as a first time grower, trying Golden Teacher with a Growkit that I am able to get online in my country. I've reached and initiated the fruiting process today and will carefully give it all that it needs over these couple weeks.
Being able to learn from experiences you've shared to avoid mistakes might actually get me through this! :)
Fruiting period. Pinhead initiation, mushroom pinning and mushrooms growth parameters
@munchiesoriginal, You're so welcome! I'm glad it was helpful :-)
Mushrooms side and bottom pinning
Thanks a lot for your help mate 😎
Mushrooms side and bottom pinning
@Jimbob, proper drying and storage in a vacuum sealed jar with desiccant in a dark place at room temps or lower will save your shrooms (and their potency) for several years. In my experience for 2-3 years for sure. Possibly longer, but I’ve never kept them longer than that.
If you use an AIRTIGHT jar (rather than a VACUUM sealed one) you can also add a pack of oxygen absorber.
Dehydrating + vacuum jar + desiccant + AND freezing (actually storage of dehydrated mushrooms in a freezer) can slow down the chemical kinetics of reaction. Thus, theoretically yes, this may slightly slow down the breakdown of alkaloids
How to freeze fresh magic mushrooms
@Johnson, Thank you for your kind support. All the best!
Mushrooms side and bottom pinning
@Neon, yes freeze drying or lyophilization is the best method for shrooms if done properly, while regular freezing absolutely not (see here https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/How_to_freeze_fresh_magic_mushrooms)
The freeze drying method doesn't damage the tissue, which means that the tryptamines oxidize less.
If you already have a freeze dryer (or maybe want a DIY one), go ahead and use it for sure! 👍
You can make a DIY setup without liquid nitrogen. You'll need dry ice and a vacuum pump.
But IMHO it’s not worth buying an expensive machine (~$3,000) for only a few kilos/pounds of shrooms. Why? Any potency loss from air drying, fan drying, or in a dehydrator can easily be compensated for by adding an extra ~10-20% to the dose, which is less than 1g (or about 10-100mg for microdosing). Anyway, you will calibrate your dose based on already dried shrooms with some potency loss after their drying
How to dry and store psilocybe mushrooms
@GaryNelson it would be great if you could start a thread on forum https://shroomok.com/forum and share your amazing experience of naturalistic Cyanescens growing.
Of course, I don't mean anything confidential (for ex. your location). Just what works best for you and what doesn’t, dos and don’ts, substrate recipes, how to follow the natural rhythm of the seasons, your tips&tricks, as well as mistakes and what you’d change, maybe nice set of photos.
This would be valuable material for future growers ;-)
Keep going, keep growing!
Wish you all the best!
How to dry and store psilocybe mushrooms
I have a dehydrator and usually dry the mushrooms and store them in the pantry in a vacuum sealed jar w/ desiccant. However I’ve read the trippy compounds will still degrade over time. Will dehydrating, vacuum jar + desiccant, AND freezing protect the psychoactive compounds?
How to freeze fresh magic mushrooms
If oxidation (duration of exposure to oxygen) and heat degradation are the main source of losses for potency, I think we should try freeze drying. Let me know if anyone has tried that, and results.
How to dry and store psilocybe mushrooms
Please tell me where I can find this lc or spores please I need this I miss them so much
KSSS - Koh Samui Super Strain cool mutated mushrooms #3
You are awesome 👌
Mushrooms side and bottom pinning
I do both. I live off grid in the PNW next to a stream with prevalent alder. I had to pull shrubbery and add wood to the slopes to facilitate drainage since cyanescens doesn't like it too wet. I'm bringing in ovoids for seasonally fresh variety. The real difficulty has been to create a naturalistic grow spot that will hopefully replenish itself when I'm gone for the lucky finder. Im 76.
How to dry and store psilocybe mushrooms
@Hannah, yes fork-tek and adding thin casing or pseudo casing layer works wonders. You can find details and example here: https://shroomok.com/en/wiki/Psilocybe_growing_problems_-_overlay,_abortions,_etc#2._Fork_tek_and_Casing
Scraped the overlay with a fork to allow for new growth. My Jack Frost hates me and it overlays every single time
Does this work well for you?
Scraped the overlay with a fork to allow for new growth. My Jack Frost hates me and it overlays every single time
Hey @👐GNOSIS👐ISTHEHOLYGRAIL👁️🗨️LOOKIN,NOTOUT🧘🏻♀️
I saw you've posted some photos on forum here https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/68/slow-growing#post_517 and created a separate thread here https://shroomok.com/forum/get-feedback-advice-on-mushroom-cultivation/72/hellllllpppppppppppp#post_522. There you can find my replies and let's continue our chat in your thread!
You provided fruiting conditions about 2-3 weeks ago, right? Sometimes APEs just need more time and more patience... Long stems without normal caps may be due to genetics itself, kind of mutation or due to mild bacterial contamination. Don't toss the cake! Let's wait another week or two, and then we'll see ;-)
Mutant strain Albino Penis Envy aint just APE but King Kong of Magic Mushrooms
My fruiting has stalled after 4-5 months, and it smells earthy. I'm seeing strange, long pins without tips. I'm not sure what's going on and am feeling frustrated. Should I keep waiting, try something different, or give up on this batch? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! I tried to add photo but cannot on this comment.
Mutant strain Albino Penis Envy aint just APE but King Kong of Magic Mushrooms
@Daro, Yes, you're right! After mixing BRF substrate it's ready for packing the jars (or bags). You don't need to cook it.
However, you need to sterilize it (in pressure cooker, multicooker or just in pot) anyway – see the next step ;-)
Cooking the substrate for mushroom cultivation