I see that you suggest using nothing but "organic" grains for spawns and substrates yet you are okay with using antibiotics for killing the bad guys. Many people avoid beef because of antibiotics in the meat. Do you not see a yellow/red flag here since mushrooms can concentrate all kinds of substances within the fruiting bodies? Just a little heads up is all. I personally would be very upset if I found out that my lovely mushrooms I was about to eat had residuals of antibiotics in them. DON'T use antibiotics for mushrooms and little else for that matter.
I love these recipes I have used most of them in my 7 years of mushrooms studying. All except the complete nutrition agar and the cornmeal. Going to try the cornmeal today, and a liter with activated charcoal. Need to get a few more ingredients for the complete agar recipe. Thank you so mush for sharing this and for making this kind of information accessible to the public. So much research and information is wasted on corporations and private research sectors.
@mrzstrain, what did you use for inoculation? A spore syringe? What is your colonization temperature?
Depending on various factors, the first signs of mycelium may appear within 3–20 days.
1) Spore syringes generally take longer, while liquid cultures or agar inoculations are much faster.
2) Temperature plays a significant role in mycelium development. At 68–73°F (20-23°C) or lower, spore propagation and mycelium growth are noticeably slower. At 75–81°F, growth is much faster.
3) The quality of substrate sterilization and sterility during inoculation — live contaminants can suppress mycelium growth.
Additionally, mycelium may develop inside the jar/bag in areas that aren’t immediately visible to you.
So, it’s too early to panic. Be patient and wait at least 2–3 weeks ;)
@Kitty, let's check the progress on day 18, okay?
Feel free to send me a photo of your cake in DM - Reddit, Discord, IG, X or by sending me an email - you can find all links on the main page in footer. It would be much easier to figure out what's wrong
@Kitty, how long has it been since you made pseudo-casing layer?
And how long since the top layer colonization?
It’s common for the mycelium to appear stalled after top layer colonization and/or transitioning to fruiting conditions as it uses this time to gather energy for pinning. Your temperature, FAE, and humidity levels seem fine 👌
I’d recommend reducing the humidity slightly to 90–92% to allow some evaporation, as this also can help stimulate pinning. Don't do anything extra till day 15-18 of the fruiting stage (I mean 15-18 days after top layer colonization).
@Jake, you don’t need a heating mat for the fruiting period if your room temperature is between 68–75°F (20–24°C).
If your room temperature drops below 68°F (20°C), set it to around 73°F (23°C). That should be sufficient.
For bulk colonization period - 73-80°F (23-27C).
Hi shroomok, I had an overlay on one B+ box because I missed to transfer it soon enough to the fruiting stage. So I followed your guide, scrapped it off, put a fingerthick layer of coconut and the mycelium colonized very well as is should be. Now I seems to me as a beginner, the "impulse" to form pinheads is not there. Temp has been 23 degrees, humidity about 95 and I have a blue light installed. Air is given by me 3-4 times a day by me opening the lid manually, what has been sufficient with my last flushes. Growing stopped about 10 days ago and nothing happens. Acutally mycelium colonization stage at the top is about perfect to form pinheads. What do I need to change in my setup to have a chance to get mushrooms? Is cold shock something I need to perform to give the impulse?
Amazing article. Not gonna lie saying it saved my crops because I got too emotional 😅 I have a question though - what would he the best temperature to set on a heating mat?
@Kitty555, drying mushrooms is not just about preserving alkaloids; it’s also about preventing the mushroom tissue from rotting and being spoiled by mold (typically penicillium)
@Kitty555, we store shrooms the same way as edible mushrooms: fresh for about 1 week in the refrigerator or FULLY dried for years (while maintaining their potency).
Even slightly wet shrooms pose a risk of spoilage due to bacteria and/or mold, making them impossible and unsafe to consume.
Storing shrooms "in a jar but not fully dry, at around 50–60% humidity," will keep them for about 1 week or so.
WOW awesome grow I have not had any real luck with albino MVP mushrooms I got two cakes growing right now and neither of them are doing crap one of them did a little something but has just stalled up. I actually inoculated a all-in-one grow bag and then I inoculated some natural brown rice so I made my own cake and I did it the safer route with the all-in-one grow back and both are doing practically the same exact thing I spawn to bulk one of the cakes on October 27th today is December 15th and the cake has yet to produce any pens any primordia I have had to rehydrate the cake twice matter of fact I just got done doing it again the second time several days ago maybe three or four days. I I just don't understand why I can't get these things to do anything while I have my leucistic blue magnolia mushrooms that are doing freaking awesome which were inoculated after the albino MVP mushrooms and they are on their second flush and I did them the same way I made a cake on my own with natural brown rice and equal Earth Coco coir and some other nutrition and I did all-in-one grow back and I'm having real good success right now. Obviously I don't like to wait I'm very anxious individual who am not patient I'm extremely impatient so on the type of person that sees a mushroom on the cake and wants to pick it off on day two and yeah so I decided I would grow a bunch of different strains at the same time which was hard to do because I'm pretty poor but I spelled the finances from another fund that I had and I have about 11 cakes going right now maybe 12. Nine are all in one grow bags. That's why so expensive for me right now. Anyways awesome girl awesome photos happy for you bro
I see that you suggest using nothing but "organic" grains for spawns and substrates yet you are okay with using antibiotics for killing the bad guys. Many people avoid beef because of antibiotics in the meat. Do you not see a yellow/red flag here since mushrooms can concentrate all kinds of substances within the fruiting bodies? Just a little heads up is all. I personally would be very upset if I found out that my lovely mushrooms I was about to eat had residuals of antibiotics in them. DON'T use antibiotics for mushrooms and little else for that matter.
Cooking the substrate for psilocybes
Is Cubensis Escondido the same as P. Mexicana?
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What's your substrate and ratio ?
I have some badass jack frost it was almost fully colonized in 3 days
I love these recipes I have used most of them in my 7 years of mushrooms studying. All except the complete nutrition agar and the cornmeal. Going to try the cornmeal today, and a liter with activated charcoal. Need to get a few more ingredients for the complete agar recipe. Thank you so mush for sharing this and for making this kind of information accessible to the public. So much research and information is wasted on corporations and private research sectors.
List of agar recipes for mushroom cultivation
Any updates? How did the constant aeration work?
Airated LC experiment. Liquid Culture aeration tek
@mrzstrain, what did you use for inoculation? A spore syringe? What is your colonization temperature?
Depending on various factors, the first signs of mycelium may appear within 3–20 days.
1) Spore syringes generally take longer, while liquid cultures or agar inoculations are much faster.
2) Temperature plays a significant role in mycelium development. At 68–73°F (20-23°C) or lower, spore propagation and mycelium growth are noticeably slower. At 75–81°F, growth is much faster.
3) The quality of substrate sterilization and sterility during inoculation — live contaminants can suppress mycelium growth.
Additionally, mycelium may develop inside the jar/bag in areas that aren’t immediately visible to you.
So, it’s too early to panic. Be patient and wait at least 2–3 weeks ;)
The magic of Golden Teacher mushroom
I am 7 days into my GT inoculation and am a little worried because I am not seeing any signs of mycelium development.
The magic of Golden Teacher mushroom
@Kitty, let's check the progress on day 18, okay?
Feel free to send me a photo of your cake in DM - Reddit, Discord, IG, X or by sending me an email - you can find all links on the main page in footer. It would be much easier to figure out what's wrong
Psilocybe growing problems - overlay, abortions, etc
Colonisazion of the pseudo layer took about one week. Since 14 days nothing really appens any more. I will reduce the humidity as you suggested.
Psilocybe growing problems - overlay, abortions, etc
@Kitty, how long has it been since you made pseudo-casing layer?
And how long since the top layer colonization?
It’s common for the mycelium to appear stalled after top layer colonization and/or transitioning to fruiting conditions as it uses this time to gather energy for pinning. Your temperature, FAE, and humidity levels seem fine 👌
I’d recommend reducing the humidity slightly to 90–92% to allow some evaporation, as this also can help stimulate pinning. Don't do anything extra till day 15-18 of the fruiting stage (I mean 15-18 days after top layer colonization).
Psilocybe growing problems - overlay, abortions, etc
@Jake, you don’t need a heating mat for the fruiting period if your room temperature is between 68–75°F (20–24°C).
If your room temperature drops below 68°F (20°C), set it to around 73°F (23°C). That should be sufficient.
For bulk colonization period - 73-80°F (23-27C).
Fruiting period. Pinhead initiation, mushroom pinning and mushrooms growth parameters
Hi shroomok, I had an overlay on one B+ box because I missed to transfer it soon enough to the fruiting stage. So I followed your guide, scrapped it off, put a fingerthick layer of coconut and the mycelium colonized very well as is should be. Now I seems to me as a beginner, the "impulse" to form pinheads is not there. Temp has been 23 degrees, humidity about 95 and I have a blue light installed. Air is given by me 3-4 times a day by me opening the lid manually, what has been sufficient with my last flushes. Growing stopped about 10 days ago and nothing happens. Acutally mycelium colonization stage at the top is about perfect to form pinheads. What do I need to change in my setup to have a chance to get mushrooms? Is cold shock something I need to perform to give the impulse?
Psilocybe growing problems - overlay, abortions, etc
Amazing article. Not gonna lie saying it saved my crops because I got too emotional 😅 I have a question though - what would he the best temperature to set on a heating mat?
Fruiting period. Pinhead initiation, mushroom pinning and mushrooms growth parameters
Just right
Too hot or just right for mushroom cake?
We all fit in this category…..still guilty of doing it. It’s life at its finest!!
Bottle-tek or how to grow mushrooms in plastic bottles
Nice looking 🍄❤️
Timbit PE mushrooms
@Kitty555, drying mushrooms is not just about preserving alkaloids; it’s also about preventing the mushroom tissue from rotting and being spoiled by mold (typically penicillium)
For how long dried Magic Mushrooms can be stored
@Kitty555, we store shrooms the same way as edible mushrooms: fresh for about 1 week in the refrigerator or FULLY dried for years (while maintaining their potency).
Even slightly wet shrooms pose a risk of spoilage due to bacteria and/or mold, making them impossible and unsafe to consume.
Storing shrooms "in a jar but not fully dry, at around 50–60% humidity," will keep them for about 1 week or so.
For how long dried Magic Mushrooms can be stored
WOW awesome grow I have not had any real luck with albino MVP mushrooms I got two cakes growing right now and neither of them are doing crap one of them did a little something but has just stalled up. I actually inoculated a all-in-one grow bag and then I inoculated some natural brown rice so I made my own cake and I did it the safer route with the all-in-one grow back and both are doing practically the same exact thing I spawn to bulk one of the cakes on October 27th today is December 15th and the cake has yet to produce any pens any primordia I have had to rehydrate the cake twice matter of fact I just got done doing it again the second time several days ago maybe three or four days. I I just don't understand why I can't get these things to do anything while I have my leucistic blue magnolia mushrooms that are doing freaking awesome which were inoculated after the albino MVP mushrooms and they are on their second flush and I did them the same way I made a cake on my own with natural brown rice and equal Earth Coco coir and some other nutrition and I did all-in-one grow back and I'm having real good success right now. Obviously I don't like to wait I'm very anxious individual who am not patient I'm extremely impatient so on the type of person that sees a mushroom on the cake and wants to pick it off on day two and yeah so I decided I would grow a bunch of different strains at the same time which was hard to do because I'm pretty poor but I spelled the finances from another fund that I had and I have about 11 cakes going right now maybe 12. Nine are all in one grow bags. That's why so expensive for me right now. Anyways awesome girl awesome photos happy for you bro
First ever grow. MVP strain of magic mushrooms
That is awesome man
A pin coming out of a cap